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Michael Seibel + Dalton Caldwell · 2023 · 6 min

Tar Pit Ideas (and How to Spot Them)

Some ideas seem obviously good but trap founders for years with no real product-market fit.

Key Takeaways

  • 01Classic tar pits: 'Yelp for X', social network for niche, marketplace with no clear sticky side, dating app for sub-segment.
  • 02Tar pits feel addictive because they're easy to build a demo of and easy to get a few enthusiastic early users.
  • 03The trap: those users don't generalize. The next 100 are 10x harder than the first 10.
  • 04Test: ask 'what changed in the world that makes this possible NOW?' If you can't answer in one sentence, it's probably a tar pit.

Distilled

Dalton and Michael keep a running list of ideas they see fail year after year. The pattern is almost always the same: a founder builds something genuinely cool, gets to 100 users, then plateaus for 18 months while convincing themselves the next feature will unlock growth.

Reality check: if the same idea has been tried by 50 YC batches with no breakout, the problem is the idea, not the execution. Pivot, don't double down.

Source

YC Startup SchoolTar Pit Ideas (and How to Spot Them)

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